Wednesday, September 05, 2012

On Detroit Tigers manager Jim Leyland, his rant and his goofy recent lineups

The percentage would be 99.99 of the time when Tigers manager Jim Leyland is asked a straight question about his lineup, or anything else, he gives a straight answer. But when he goes off on a condescending rant like the one before Tuesday's game vs. Cleveland when questioned about a truly questionable lineup, it does cause much self-inflicted damage to his reputation.
 Fans in this town care so much about the lineup nightly because they care so much about the team. It's the first week of September and they are neck-and-neck against the White Sox with the expectation from the onset of the season the Tigers would win the AL Central.
When Leyland rests a 25-year-old center fielder, Austin Jackson, the third-best position player on the club one day, and the team's hottest hitter recently, Delmon Young, the next, both for players who could easily be in the minor leagues, Quintin Berry and Don Kelly, there are questions. The media asks those questions. The answers aren't always accepted as gospel. They are second guessed. Fans have every right to do that. Ultimately, they do pay the freight. It is be expected. It is part of the media's responsibility to not only ask those questions on behalf of their readers or listeners, but analyze them honestly when in the role of columnist or commentator.
If there is anybody who should understand this, it's somebody who had managed baseball professionally since 1970, and been in major league uniform for the better part of 30 years, like Jim Leyland.
When a team is in trouble is when nobody cares what the lineup is. There have been too many years when filling out the lineup card in September in Detroit was the easiest managerial task in baseball, the chance of second-guessing nil. You know, before the Tigers were not selling out each night, prior to their broadcast ratings sky-rocketing and when baseball was left for dead in this town.
Until the last couple days, I felt this was Leyland's best job of managing with the Tigers. It was a very rough early season when Jackson and Doug Fister were out, every umpiring call or break went against the team and it was just floundering overall amid expectations that were exceptionally high after last season's playoff run and the subsequent signing of Prince Fielder. There weren't goofy lineups or outbursts toward the fans or media like there had been in the past, which were few and far between, but drew much attention.
Leyland was a calm hand at the wheel and navigated the Tigers through what could have been a perfect storm for disaster.
OK, so now the Tigers are there and it is still a little rocky, which is to be expected because that is just the way pennant races are, but everything the Tigers sought is still very much on the table.
How does going into goofy lineup mode after sweeping the White Sox in three straight games help? Or defending what turned out to be the indefensible when it is consider two one-run losses to a club that had been playing as poorly as any in baseball, the Indians, ensued?
It does not.
My gut feeling is this will pass. The Tigers will win the division (the White Sox are living on borrowed time with that pitching staff) and perhaps do well in the postseason. Overall, I still Leyland as one of the Tigers best managers of all time. I vividly recall the period between Sparky Anderson and Leyland's arrival and just what a mess that team was in the clubhouse, dugout and on the field.
But this was unnecessary, and does not reflect well on the Tigers as an organization.
And if the Tigers do stumble from this point forward, these two days will be remembered from here to eternity by baseball fans in this town.
Why? Well, let me repeat.
BECAUSE THEY CARE!!!!




5 Comments:

Blogger spencersteel said...

Delmon Young himself asked out against Masterson, from what Leyland said, as he's had no success against him. As far as Jackson is concerned, while it's easy to second-guess sitting him, the fact is that Jim Leyland has access to information that we as observers do not. Jackson could have a niggling injury, or just not be quite himself after a long baseball season and in need of a day off. Don Kelly isn't much of a player and though I know he's hit Masterson well I can't imagine the sample size is very large. After all, Don Kelly doesn't hit anyone very well. Still, these sorts of decisions fit within the range of what I'd term "managerial discretion".

Leyland did a pretty good job of explaining why he did what he did, and I think it was satisfactory. Every manager in the major-leagues makes decisions that are easy to second guess, but most of them are coin flips that annoy the fans and have negligible to zero impact on the outcome of a game or series of games. Managing a baseball game - strategically - is so much less complicated than the average fan believes. Most of us could do it. Try that in a game like chess. The most important thing a manager can do - by far - is keep the house in order, and it's here where I believe Leyland has excelled. In nearly seven full seasons he has never once gone after a player publicly, nor have we heard of any discord in the clubhouse (and over 180+ games and seven months there's no way there haven't been plenty of conflicts). Contrast that to a guy like Valentine who in one - and likely his only one - season has managed to show up Kevin Youkilis, Alfredo Aceves, and Josh Beckett. Joe Torre was no brilliant strategist, but he was able to keep a lot of enormous egos in check in the biggest pressure-cooker of a media market in the country, and like Leyland, if anything went on there, it stayed in the clubhouse. Earl Weaver (who was a brilliant tactician) once famously stated that the secret of managing a ballclub is keeping the five guys who hate you away from the 20 others who are still undecided", and again I think Leyland does well here. Should the Tigers fail to make the playoffs in 2012 Leyland will bear the brunt of the criticism, but let's be honest: It's a top-heavy roster with a lot of very mediocre players having even worse than average seasons. 2011 was sort of magical in that whatever could break right for them did. 2012 has gone the other way, and as you point out, the Tigers are still likely to make the playoffs. Winning 87 games with the Tigers' rosters is nothing to be ashamed about - it was the expectations that were out of whack, not the results.

2:35 PM 
Blogger Fred Brill said...

I agree with spencersteel - however - it's those very expectations that would cause Layland's demise should they not make the playoffs.

In fact I'll go so far as to say if they get bumped out in the ALDS (round 1) - he is as likely to go - that's how high expectations are - as well as the truth in the idiom "familiarity breeds contempt" - high expectations and public discontentment with a team that can't reach the promised pinnacle - man - that just smells like a pink slip for a manager of any team - business or sports.

Add to the mix the shelf-full of top notch managers currently on the available list - it gets harder and harder to defend the Tigers' Skip.

Fair or unfair - that's the reality.

Perhaps - just perhaps - perhaps Leyland is stale with the Tigers now - the thrill less than thrilling. I've spent the last 4 years defending him - since the 2008 debacle after signing Miggy and being trumpeted the World Series winners in February.

That being said - I do think if all things remain constant - and Martinez comes back - and Avila survives the sophmore slump - 2013 is really going to be the Tigers year - and it really would be a shameif it happened under a different skip after Leyland spent the last 8 years with DD building this team.

12:27 PM 
Blogger Pat Caputo said...

Spencersteel, I don't have any issue with Jim Leyland as a manger overall. He is excellent. I'm on the radio right after games, and hear all kinds of unreasonable criticisms of him, and vehemently defend him all the time when I feel it is warranted. But those lineups weren't good. They hurt the Tigers those days. Mostly, though, his comments about the fans were out of line and served no purpose whatsoever. Good comments, though. Appreciate it.
Caputo

12:54 PM 
Blogger Pat Caputo said...

Fred Brill,
I am not so sure he will be back one way or another, but I think it was set up so he won't be for sure If the Tigers don't make the postseason. Dave Dombrowski will have some work to do in the off season - corner outfield, perhaps SS, maybe bullpen or starting pitching. But as long as they have Fielder and Cabrera in the middle of the order, and Verlander leading the rotation, they will be contenders. Those three are in their prime. You're the man, Fred.
Caputo

12:58 PM 
Anonymous Trevor Upchurch said...

Hey Pat, i thought your article was pretty good but I do have a certain question. Do you think Jim Leyland would've survived the harsh media of cities like Boston, Philly and New York over a span of 7 seasons? Because let's face it Pat, I appreciate the Detroit media, they are all good people who care about their sports teams but it seems to me you guys don't try to hold Leyland accountable when he does make these questionable lineup decisions that tick the passionate fans off. I just feel like Leyland doesn't use enough advanced stats like sabermetrics to see who's been doing well enough to be scratched into the lineup. I also feel like he shouldn't use sample sizes of less than 20 at-bats when it comes to who should bat vs. a certain pitcher. I just feel like in all honesty the game has passed him now and it's time for him to be let go from this organization. I thank him for being one of the reasons why the Tigers are an over .500 ballclub and are contending team but I feel like the sun should set on the Jim Leyland era. Hopefully you can respond to this.

10:09 PM 

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